tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post1649727499530228222..comments2024-02-13T03:59:13.635+00:00Comments on Eat Electric Death: Are You Prepared? [Brit]Slimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02020308502156946280noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-58144414000686381802004-08-16T11:16:00.014+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.014+01:00Interesting how this morning the radio etc have be...Interesting how this morning the radio etc have been reporting that the 8 people arrested have been charged with conspiracy to commit radiological or chemical something. What they are repeatedly failing to do is state the full charge which ends in the less dramatic "or explosives". It'll be interesting to see what comes out in the trial - was this a dirty bomb / chemical plan or another Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-74769163061486609152004-08-16T11:16:00.013+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.013+01:00Am: I believe medical radiation sources are a powd...Am: I believe medical radiation sources are a powder inside a ceramic puck. Convienient no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-71061693262634056182004-08-16T11:16:00.012+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.012+01:00Yep, good point well made. With reference to Brazi...Yep, good point well made. With reference to Brazil (did you actually watch that Horizon television show when it aired?) decontamination... obviously there are some pretty huge fundamental differences versus an attack on a major Western city. There are also some depressingly convienient and vulnerable infrastructure targets.<br>It's easy enough to lambast the scaremongering going on but if the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-17819602812677564462004-08-16T11:16:00.011+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.011+01:00Actually my mate explained all of the obvious rout...Actually my mate explained all of the obvious routes (this was over a few beers right) including medical isotopes and the various materials. As an aside he said yer actual favourite is the isotopes they use as crude x-ray machines to check out pipe and tube integrity in steel factories. Because of the thickness of the pipes, the isotopes have to be fairly bitching - much better than medical Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-58370134530970914222004-08-16T11:16:00.010+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.010+01:00I concede the point about decomtamination, to a ce...I concede the point about decomtamination, to a certain extent. The article I linked to points to a case in Brazil where they had to decomtaminate a similar sized region as a dirty bomb attack, following a radiation accident. The ultimate solution was to bulldoze the buildings and move the (still radioactive) materials elsewhere.<br>But in general, the area can be decontaminated, and as you said Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-61008351949281105302004-08-16T11:16:00.009+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.009+01:00We live in a radio-active world - anyone who lives...We live in a radio-active world - anyone who lives in Edinburgh gets more radiation from the ground than the recommended Xray dose limits.<br>People worry too much about most things. Life goes on, and a few radiation caused mutations will simply help advance the gene pool in a period of stagnation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-29640811976558855632004-08-16T11:16:00.008+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.008+01:00Certainly true that they don't kill people from th...Certainly true that they don't kill people from the radiation or anything like that. However I think you're being quite absurdly optimistic when it comes to the effectiveness of mass decontamination of a city from something like caesium. Quite appart from anything else, the threat is obviously related to the effectiveness of dispersal, the specific agent and the quantities involved so bugger Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-8784027033339604152004-08-16T11:16:00.007+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.007+01:00Luckily, a dirty bomb is far more successful in it...Luckily, a dirty bomb is far more successful in its ability to scare people witless than it is in its ability to kill people.The main <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2003/dirtybombqa.shtml">danger from a dirty bomb</a>, believe it or not, is from the actual explosion itself. Like any bomb, if you're near it, you're pretty much scuppered - but through the blast, not the radiation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-19898948466764645552004-08-16T11:16:00.006+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.006+01:00I don't think you understand. You don't use Uraniu...I don't think you understand. You don't use Uranium, that would hardly be dangerous at all. You build proper nukes out of Uranium. You build a dirty bomb out of radioactive isotopes and there is a worldwide trade in such things as radiation sources for medical purposes. You can get that stuff standing on your head and it's very very dangerous indeed and a simple bomb would effectively render a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-68209894698932260402004-08-16T11:16:00.005+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.005+01:00I might have said this in the pub, but my mate was...I might have said this in the pub, but my mate was a senior health physicist in Aldermaston in the late eighties and we used to discuss this over a pint some 17 years ago. He was the first person who ever told me about what a dirty bomb was and could explain how you'd source the materials standing on your head. HOWEVER, the reason he said that he wasn't concerned about it is that blowing up a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-90498451258047658092004-08-16T11:16:00.004+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.004+01:00Nuke in a city still isn't a very likely scenario....Nuke in a city still isn't a very likely scenario. Sadly a dirty bomb is far more likely and is probably more likely than a biological attack as well. Purely going on easy of obtaining materials and difficulty in fabricating weapons.But yeah, now I'm catching the tube to work every day it is a bit of a cause for concern...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-73249658971913326432004-08-16T11:16:00.003+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.003+01:00Look my babs, if a terrorist organisation ever nuk...Look my babs, if a terrorist organisation ever nukes a western city, the next tin of beans will become a very minor concern indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-60511099506814024442004-08-16T11:16:00.002+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.002+01:00Wasn't duck and cover a US initiative? There's bee...Wasn't duck and cover a US initiative? There's been a few since the 50's too, with nuclier 'protect and survive' advice booklets produced by the govt well into the 80's..Daves right, I'm not about to go buying crates of beans based on some sky1 scarefest unless there's a specific threat and associated warning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-2391219274653213212004-08-16T11:16:00.001+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.001+01:00To: Ossie911@al-queda.com [Osama bin Laden]From: T...To: Ossie911@al-queda.com [Osama bin Laden]From: The Decadent WestSubject: re: your ongoing campaign of terror against the west.Hi Ossie,Okay, you win. You and your lads have successfully struck fear into the hearts of us decadent westerners, to the point where we're willing to live in fear and terror everyday of our lives.As I type this, normally sensible people are stacking matreses in their Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-19744176547573951272004-08-16T11:16:00.000+01:002004-08-16T11:16:00.000+01:00I recently bought a bbq, sausages & burgers an...I recently bought a bbq, sausages & burgers and 12 litres of Irn Bru, should see me ok.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com