tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post7082050799350510586..comments2024-02-13T03:59:13.635+00:00Comments on Eat Electric Death: Time for anti-spam [lurks]Slimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02020308502156946280noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-85821935517097143982003-11-20T12:09:00.010+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.010+00:00The reply-to field is very rarely valid. They try ...The reply-to field is very rarely valid. They try to get you to visit a web site or phone a number. It's possible to get a mail server to say 'no such user' but it has to do that before it receives an e-mail. The only information available to it at that point is the IP address and whatever the spammer specifies as a FROM: address.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-18950842372277462042003-11-20T12:09:00.009+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.009+00:00Is there an app which will classify spam and then ...Is there an app which will classify spam and then bounce it back to the sender with the standard 'address does not exist' email?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-23888295222448051182003-11-20T12:09:00.008+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.008+00:00'..leaves its spam in the app' kind of implies it ...'..leaves its spam in the app' kind of implies it downloads it rather than deleting it from the server, which is what I was going on about. I don't see it makes much difference which app it downloads it to. I'll admit this may be an irrelevant nicety though.<br>Gotta admit I'm tempted to explore Lineone's £5 a year server side filtering, though I've only heard anecdotal evidence that it does theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-39244904639634002852003-11-20T12:09:00.007+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.007+00:00Or just run one of the many proxy ones that doesn'...Or just run one of the many proxy ones that doesn't shove it in a spam folder, and leaves it spam in the app for you to look at at your leisure. Which is what I've been going on about all along... I get the impression you don't quite get how they work? Probably worth taking a quick peek at SpamWeed to see what they're about (this has a free trial).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-85647692222269727122003-11-20T12:09:00.006+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.006+00:00Going on headers alone it doesn't catch everything...Going on headers alone it doesn't catch everything but catches the vast majority of it, assuming you have a few sensible filters set up. Going through the tiny list of mails neither whitelisted or flagged as spam takes next to no time. Less time than I'm saving in downloading 300 spams day? Perhaps not, I've got a reasonably fast line, but it was a fucking lifesaver when I was stuck using 56k forAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-62499841338281525402003-11-20T12:09:00.005+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.005+00:00The free proxy stuff just marks the mail with a sp...The free proxy stuff just marks the mail with a special header you filter on. SpamWeed has a little app where it shows you the spam and legitimate mail and you can go in there to check things.<br>Now I can't see Mailwasher being able to do a good job of anti-spam processing if it doesn't pull down the content of the mail. So I can't see where your bandy savings come from there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-21413887319407740522003-11-20T12:09:00.004+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.004+00:00Maybe I just don't trust automated filtering enoug...Maybe I just don't trust automated filtering enough, but I'm going to end up doing a quick scan through filtered mail anyway, so there's attention required either way. That being the case, deleting it from the pop box seems to make more sense to me than using a proxy to sort spam from non-spam, if only to cut out 80% of my mail bandwidth. Possibly I'm being over-finicky - a few hundred extra Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-70173689091601106842003-11-20T12:09:00.003+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.003+00:00Mailwasher was something we universally didn't lik...Mailwasher was something we universally didn't like because it basically is a stand alone app that deletes mail from your pop box and requires attention to do so. It's also easy to get your mail client to fetch the mail with spam, before mailwasher has done it's job. In my view, proxy spam killers are superior in pretty much every way.<br>Now after a couple of dayus of SpamWeed, I've had to do Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-8259570550978024852003-11-20T12:09:00.002+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.002+00:00I use Mailwasher, nice little app. Logs into your ...I use Mailwasher, nice little app. Logs into your pop account, downloads headers, marks mails for deletion according to blacklists and keywords, with decent filtering options. Simple but effective. Nice thing is you mark friendly email addresses as such, just sort by friendlies and scan briefly through all the rest before hitting 'delete'. It even kindly pops your email client to front after Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-56203635147069890192003-11-20T12:09:00.001+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.001+00:00I agree that blacklists aren't a good defence by t...I agree that blacklists aren't a good defence by themselves but actually, my mail server does such a lookup and it catches a fair bit of spam which SA Proxy missed. POPFile sounds nice but I've kind of decided I like the way SpamWeed keeps the spam in the app and doesn't dirty my mail client with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961660238450693245.post-86260138079637609932003-11-20T12:09:00.000+00:002003-11-20T12:09:00.000+00:00I've been using an open source solution called POP...I've been using an open source solution called <a href="http://popfile.sourceforge.net/">POPFile</a> for almost a year now, and it does a near-perfect job for me. It runs as a mail proxy service under Windows and works purely on the basis of keyword and pattern recognition - similar system to SpamWeed.<br>It took a few weeks of classifying mails for it to achieve full accuracy, but now it's closeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com