Monday, 25 November 2002
Firemen and teh Army [slim]
Posted by
Dave
Quick one: The firemen might strike, and everyones flapping because the army only have ancient nasty old Green fireengine things. Why, when the firemen strike, don't the army lot just inhabit the firestations and use all the nice swanky kit they have? Anyone tell me?
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I think this was the original plan, but the firemens unions whinged about this constituting crossing strike lines - which seems fair enough to me, but there you go...
ReplyDeleteDunno, training? Crossing picket lines. Althopugh I'd like to see the firemen stop the army from crossing picket lines. I'm sure they'd be a law saying you could shoot them for impairing the use of civil defence equipment or something :)Ahh, Troops 'may' drive fire engines apparently. It was a training issue as I surmised.Can you believe that in the midst of the firemen strike, there's been a spate of hoax calls? Unbelievable, what tossers. Put them to death I say.
ReplyDeleteA week ago I wouldn't of believed it, but after seeing the kids on the Jamie Oliver show nothing would surprise me. I hope they get tracked down and roasted in their own juices.
ReplyDeleteCan we put them to death only after we've sacked all the lazy firemen?
ReplyDeleteHmm how about we put them on a pyre, set it alight and then call 999. 'There's a pyre here with a whole bunch of people on it which will shortly burn to death! ... Haha! No there isn't! Haha!'
ReplyDeleteI find it amusing that New York's brave firefighters have just accepted an 11% pay rise pretty much spot-on identical to the offer made in this country. When will our not un-talented firemen realise that their Union is living in the dark ages of long-discarded socialism and that reform would actually be good for their service as a whole?
ReplyDeleteI say fuck them. Give them 11% if they don't want it they can fuck offand fall back on lucrative careers as theme male strippers :)
ReplyDeleteSo far ten people have died in fires during the 48 hours of the strike. Now, maybe not all of those ten could have been rescued anyway, but I'll wager quite a few of them could have been. As far as I'm concerned, the union bosses who organised this strike are directly responsible for the manslaughter of those people.
ReplyDeleteA question. Why do the armed forces only have Green Goddesses (Godi?)? They deal in pretty combustable stuff on a regular basis, surely they should have better kit on barracks than this 50 year old shit?
ReplyDeleteI think for their purposes the green goddesses are probably fine and they do have a lot of them. I mean, they work. They're just not really suitable for nipping about the modern day streets to get to fires in a hurry.Update 23/11/2002: Right so now we've gone to an 8-day strike. The politics surrounding the situation seem quite odd now. It appears that a 16% offer was on the table and pretty much set to go by all parties but the employers (local authorities) and the fire union conspired to remove all the language about reforms. Stuff designed to combat the shitful inefficient way the service has been run for 25 years.So the government got the hump and vetoed it and to be honest, quite right too. I think the longer the spotlight is on the whole issue, the more people realise that these guys actually got a pretty good job that lots of people want to do and they got a pretty good job offer and work place reforms are quite a reasonable thing to ask if some inflation busting pay-offer is on the table.Once again, a massive own goal from the fire union. Public opinion will swing even further away from support for the strike and now the government can start to get heavy with measures to make sure this essential service runs (and quite rightly so!). It seems likely they'll be forced to accept the 16% offer with reforms but come out looking like cunts and face having some legislation forced through to ban strikes in the future (or some other measure to ensure the service is uninterrupted). Foolishness.
ReplyDeleteAt the end of the day, there's more than 100 people who want to do a firemans job for each fireman. So you've got a simple supply and demand issue. If you don't like the pay, fek off and become a plasterer or something.
ReplyDeleteAnyone catch Blair's live Q&A sesh today? Boy he's good. Gilchrist really is against the wall, rapidly running out of friends. Would like to do my bit for the forces and point out that under-trained young service personnel seem to be doing a reasonable job all things considered - and this is (a) on less than a fireman earns (b) working 8 hrs a day (c) for 7 days a week (I'm told).
ReplyDeleteFiremen normally work 2 days, 2 nights, 4 days off - that's cushty compared to my previous job. Reckon they're picketing all week without wages? Ho hum. The strike gives lots of time for DIY methinks.
I hate the idea
ReplyDeleteNo one cares.
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