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Monday, 25 October 2004

Another dentist blog [Beej]


I just spent a considerable amount of money on BriteSmile treatment at a private dentist. Now I know dentist blogs are fucking boring - we all hate them, what's to discuss? - but this I have to share for the goddamn record.

Firstly, I do not understand the technological process used to whiten my teeth. Gel + UV light + some sort of blocking stuff + cream on lips = white teeth? No clue. But I let them do it anyway. UV light for burning off enamel maybe?

Either way it f***ing hurts. Excrutiating, no exagguration. I'm good with pain, but if I cry and physically shake then that suggests something A BIT FUCKING WORRYING. I've been getting mini-jolts randomly since the treatment, but it's all normal (!) I can't eat any non-white foodstuff (!) and there's nothing I can do except pop another 4x nurofen and wait for it to wear off "in the next 24hrs". This begs the question WTF IS GOING ON IN MY MUSH?! I empathise with Wolverine and the adamantium.

I had him stop the treatment early. No side effects to this, just 80% as white as planned. I couldn't physically take any more of the pain (a weird feeling for someone with a positive completist sort of mentality) :(

a possibly relevant link relating to oral torture.

Maybe my opinion will change when I've had some kip but I just can't recommend this treatment with this sort of pain. No adult should cry in a dentist's chair. BriteSmile - don't say I didn't warn you.

33 comments:


  1. Looking for a military discharge already?

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  2. Get this: it wasn't a UV light, it was a plasma arc light source. Arc welder indeed... they nearly bloody killed me.

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  3. That freaked me out when I read the site. It's blue/green visible light wavelength. Now to actually ionize stains to whiten your teeth, we're talking about ridiculous amounts of light. Insane. I'd go for bleach personally :)

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  4. I was under the impression that these treatments worked thus:

    Firstly, the gel/paste is applied to the teeth.Secondly, the hugely powerful laser or other light source is shone into the mouth.Thirdly, the light activates an ingredient within the gel/paste.Fourthly, you get lovely white teeth.

    I've been thinking about doing this for some time, but your experience is truly wierd - I've never heard of anyone having this sort of reaction.

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  5. Never heard of that. The conventional/yank way is to put bleach paste on your teeth. This nutty light as way beej had it done, surely any gel is likely over gums to prevent them being burnt to cinders right Beej? Of course it wont stop light shining through your teeth and onto the root nerves... I'm thinking I'll pass too actually.

    Those whitening toothpastes are shite though, as far as I can tell. I have brushed quite vigorously twice a day with whitening toothpaste for, well, ages. Teeth not so bad but you can still see stains. That said, I do drink eight gallons of black coffee every day...

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  6. I have a little news for you. The light doesn't do a thing. It is only the oxides in the gel. The light doesn't activate anything, speed anything up, or cause any additional pain. It is 100% the gel. Same effect with or without the light.

    Bleaching works by penetrating the enamel (basically translucent) and removing color from the underlying dentin (white).

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  7. Interesting, so what's the light for then?

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  8. It's a con Lurks. Brite Smile say the light's the activating agent for the gel which is constituted to respond to certain wavelengths of light. The light then acts as activator and accelerant. But we know that in fact Brite Smile's researchers have produced a perfectly good gel that whitens teeth without any participation from the light whatsoever and the senior executives have decided to engage in a massive conspiracy of fraud against all dentists and dental patients globally by creating a functionless light machine to be used in hundreds of thousands of treatments across the globe to make the treatment appear more impressive.

    "Now" you say, "surely that can't be the case because what with the way medical research works they'll get caught out and be sent to jail for massive criminal fraud?". Not so you fool - they intend to make so much money through their fraudulent actions before they get caught that they will be able to buy out every dentally significant nation state in the world and change their criminal judicial systems to recognise dental fraud as, in fact, somewhat less serious than breaking wind in an empty street.

    The bastards probably charge money for a machine that goes 'bing' as well.

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  9. I just had britesmile done about 2 hrs ago and I've had shards of pain bouncing from tooth to tooth, going off like random fireworks. Seriously, no one told me that there was going to be any pain (in fact, they promise "pain free whitening") but my God does this hurt. I paid $500 for this and I'm not even sure that the end result is even that great.

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  10. Steve, the fireworks thing is a bit scary. I drove home and it was like randomised torture. If its any consolation, it was gone in 36-48hrs.

    Four months on from when I first wrote this blog, I can add that my teeth are more sensitive than they used to be. By that, I don't mean "eek, icecream", I mean that sometimes out of the blue, I'll feel a slight sensation that I never would have felt before the treatment. Slightly electric maybe. This is occasional, and its not painful.

    Just last night after brushing my teeth I was in bed and I breathed in through my mouth and they tingled, like icecream on sensitive teeth. That didn't happen before either.

    Maybe its because they're "cleaner" than ever before?

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  11. Or you applied a thick paste of peroxide chemicals to your teeth that attacked and oxidised the composition of your dentin, destroying unsightly pigment compounds but also causing who knows what sort of damage to nearby cells. To say nothing for any that might leak into the rest of the mouth and the subsequent release of top cancer-causing free radicals. Might be that?

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  12. I think you should blame the Dentist for not informing you aon the possible side effects of that kind of bleaching. I recomend a close friend of mine who happens to be a Dentist to give you all the required info before ventures into the unknowned world of pain. She's also pretty good on the eyes!

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  13. hmmm not all treatments should be painfull www.cosmeticdentistryguide.co.uk

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  14. Or you can just take care of your teeth and use all natural toothpastes which wont discolor teeth like fluoride....

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  15. Fouride discolours your teeth now? Jeez you yanks never stop with the bullshit!

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  16. OMG I had zoom done today and at 8pm tonight I am nearly crying with the pain. Painkillers are doing NOTHING and I am in PAIN! :( I have lovelywhite teeth but the PAIN :(

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  17. had brite smile done today, 5 hours ago and still experiencing "electric" jolts of pain in my teeth. the pain has begun to decrease a little and hopefully will go away in a day or two. beauty comes at a price, both physically and financially. I'm thrilled with the results and would do it again but you should be prepared for the VERY uncomfortable after effects of the treatment. The real pain started on the 4th 20 minute treatment and was almost unbearable. I'm hungry as hell but my stomach turning is less painful than eating at this point.

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  18. Was the dentist related to anyone we used to beat in CS/Q2-3? Was he Iraqi? Did he have any insight into your personality? :)

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  19. bondibeachdentist1 July 2007 at 04:27

    Im a dentist in bondi australia, and I am just curious if you were ever recommended to use TOOTH MOUSSE or ReCALDENT before and after treatment. It stops the sensitivity you are describing. www.bondibeachdental.com.au

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  20. Hey Dr Suttner! It seems to me, you're our kind of dentist..... Bondi Beach, Noise reducing headphones, DVD's and Sedation.... pretty much like the average evening in #eed. If you're ever over in the UK, give us a bell and the lads from electricdeath will be pleased to take you out and show you what passes for local sedation in a pint glass....

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  21. My god, this have to be the greatest dentist ever. You need to move to sweden, not the uk. We got blonds you know, with fake tits shaven cunts and NO morals. Think about it!

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  22. bondibeachdentist3 July 2007 at 08:03


    LOL. I figured if you live and work somewhere amazing then works a pleasure.am..... I may take you up on that pint :)cheers

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  23. OH MY GOD !! I'm thinking about getting Brite Smile or Zoom Whitening done......but after reading all this........I dont know anymore.. I havent paid for it yet...but i need to make an appt today. Should I not get it done anymore? My teeth are stained.....and I seriously need some whitening done...and Im soo impatient that i dont think i can do the home whitening stuff........what should I do ?

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  24. bondibeachdentist4 July 2007 at 08:59


    Look, teeth do get sensitive for a little while after whitening. But.... if you use tooth mousse, don't overwhiten, and be careful around ice cream, for the first week...... then its a great option.

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  25. I've got some noticable coffee stains on some slightly uneven lower teeth and general colour shade I'd rather was lighter. Is there such a thing as being sensible with this stuff for a mild cosmetic affect rather than yank-style unnatural silver chops?

    Few years ago I bought a home whitening kit off ebay but didn't really get on with it. It just made my mouth fill up with spit to the point I had to get rid of it all before it seemed to do anything.

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  26. Hi ~~ I just got the Brite Smile done today and it BURNED my SKIN ON MY FACE, apparently around/under the edges where they put the "protective" gauzy white things around the lips. I'm serious, I have a burn BLISTER full of that icky watery stuff that is almost an inch long by one of my lips and then the other side of my mouth is all red and dry and irritated. I tried to tell the hygienist that my skin felt like it was burning, but anyone who has had this treatment knows that it is impossible to make any real word sounds w/ that contraption in the mouth!!

    All the dentist/hygienist said was "well that's never happened before" and they said there's no UV rays in the light. No "sorry that happened" or "geez, we'll reduce the cost or make it on us" or anything!!! ---- And this dentist charged $645 for the treatment -- this is in Oregon, U.S. Rip off artists! And how big of a sucker am I???

    Oh, and my teeth hurt like hell and I'm NEVER ever had any sensitivity whatsoever in my teeth; I feel worried that I have damaged them now and they will always be sensitive.

    Does anyone know WHAT wavelengths are in that blue light? Or is that all fucking proprietary what w/ the patents and all??? I don't think the 15% hydrogen peroxide could do that to my skin; I used to work in a lab and spilled all kinds of whatnot on my hands at least, including like 30+% peroxide before and I didn't have any redness or burn or anything after washing it off. What the hell?? Anyone know the wavelengths and/or intensity of that light?

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  27. looking for somewhere to rant about these bastards took me a while because when you search 'the crime of tooth whitening' the first 30 links consist of flashing ads and Barbie doll smiles =D It was almost a year ago that I had the treatment done - was the most painful experience of my life - and like the rest of you, I was told the pain was perfectly normal (although I wasn't warned of it beforehand!) the bastards who let this happen have no soul (and yes I realize that I am one of those bastards) I also can't eat, my teeth were white for a while and now look like sweetcorn because the treatment actually makes your teeth act like a sponge - i'm pretty sure that the toothpastes like ‘replenishing white' etc... Out now for the low low price of £20 are designed to target people like me who have realized this. I spent a while worrying about the technicalities of the whole thing - then I thought - FUCK YOU! The tooth whitening mask is just one of the disguises hidden in the 'Mary poppins handbag' of those whose main goal in life is to attack people like 'you'. The only way to beat the sick, sick wankers who are raping us from every angle is to remember that we are intelligent people and to stop giving our souls to corporate criminals without an ounce of humanity left in their little robot bodies. Money can destroy your soul, without a soul you are dead, it is the people involved in companies like this who make me glad that I had given up my money to lace their death beds. The only way to escape these fuckers is to take back your right to be human: Dance, sing, make music, stargaze and most importantly say NO to corporate crime =D

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  28. looking for somewhere to rant about these bastards took me a while because when you search 'the crime of tooth whitening' the first 30 links consist of flashing ads and Barbie doll smiles =D It was almost a year ago that I had the treatment done - was the most painful experience of my life - and like the rest of you, I was told the pain was perfectly normal (although I wasn't warned of it beforehand!) the bastards who let this happen have no soul (and yes I realize that I am one of those bastards) I also can't eat, my teeth were white for a while and now look like sweetcorn because the treatment actually makes your teeth act like a sponge - i'm pretty sure that the toothpastes like ‘replenishing white' etc... Out now for the low low price of £20 are designed to target people like me who have realized this. I spent a while worrying about the technicalities of the whole thing - then I thought - FUCK YOU! The tooth whitening mask is just one of the disguises hidden in the 'Mary poppins handbag' of those whose main goal in life is to attack people like 'you'. The only way to beat the sick, sick wankers who are raping us from every angle is to remember that we are intelligent people and to stop giving our souls to corporate criminals without an ounce of humanity left in their little robot bodies. Money can destroy your soul, without a soul you are dead, it is the people involved in companies like this who make me glad that I had given up my money to lace their death beds. The only way to escape these fuckers is to take back your right to be human: Dance, sing, make music, stargaze and most importantly say NO to corporate crime =D

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  29. Try at home teeth whitening such as www.glistenwhite.co.uk which I used, sensitive product gave me zero pain.

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  30. Isn't that we, as dentist should be putting more of an effort into provding NHS dentistry treatment for one and all. I personally am committed to the NHS www.findannhsdentist.info

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  31. Exactly. I had good experience in San Diego with holistic san diego dentist at www.naturaldentistry.us.

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  32. PhilRevaHealthcom23 October 2008 at 16:46


    There are lots of reports online these days about the pain and lasting side effects involved with teeth whitening; similarly with the side effects of laser eye surgery. On the plus side, these side effects seem to only affect a pretty small minority of people having these treatments. On the negative side, no one wants to be one of the people affected, so going into the treatment armed with the knowledge that there might be side effects is crucial. I'm glad more and more people are at least talking about these side effects online.

    Phil

    RevaHealth.com

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